arewexlibreyet.md

Are we XLibre yet?

X11 has been, and still is, a vital piece of technology at the core of professional Unix-like workstations since decades. It has a proven track record of supporting enterprise-grade applications with long-term protocol stability and platform compatibility. It has matured over decades. XLibre is an actively developed fork of the X.Org X11 server, initiated by the most active X.Org developer and supported by the open source community.

An incompatible alternative, Wayland, is being aggressively pushed by IBM = Red Hat = Gnome = Fedora = freedesktop.org. However, it is not ready to succeed X11 as it its governance model leads to never-ending discussions and prevents even the most essential functionality from existing. Think twice before abandoning Xorg. Wayland breaks everything!

It is time that the open source community reclaims what was ours to begin with. This page lists distributions supporting XLibre so that you can make an informed choice.

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Interesting...

https://x.com/LundukeJournal/status/1942269768192737511

Representatives from Canonical, Debian, & GNOME have begun defacing an XLibre (Xorg fork) wiki page

...guess WHICH page...

while that’s true, and we may lose Gnome, for example, we’re not going to lose KDE and many other desktops for a good long while.

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________________________________ We don’t need to be in the distro to be in the distro. If they don’t want officially be in, fine. There are ways around it, while still being able to have a presence in the distro. It just means we’d have to find volunteers that would be willing to package it. There are ways around it until the Xorg and X11 (the protocol) related code / dependent packages are completely deprecated and removed in the distro. Just like init system, some distro switched into systemd long time ago and there is no way to switch back to anything else. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub<https://gist.github.com/probonopd/301319568a554abe7426c02eb5e19b5a#gistcomment-5666440> or unsubscribe<https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AZDUTM5TXSCUEMZF4D7FJSD3HK45RBFKMF2HI4TJMJ2XIZLTSKBKK5TBNR2WLJDUOJ2WLJDOMFWWLO3UNBZGKYLEL5YGC4TUNFRWS4DBNZ2F6YLDORUXM2LUPGBKK5TBNR2WLJDHNFZXJJDOMFWWLK3UNBZGKYLEL52HS4DFVRZXKYTKMVRXIX3UPFYGLK2HNFZXIQ3PNVWWK3TUUZ2G64DJMNZZDAVEOR4XAZNEM5UXG5FFOZQWY5LFVEYTGOJQGIZTGOBSU52HE2LHM5SXFJTDOJSWC5DF>. You are receiving this email because you commented on the thread. Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS<https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>.

I saw it.

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Interesting...

https://x.com/LundukeJournal/status/1942269768192737511

Representatives from Canonical, Debian, & GNOME have begun defacing an XLibre (Xorg fork) wiki page

...guess WHICH page...

now this is hostile and dangerous and defamatory territory
and are you (@probonopd) the creator of AppImage ?

Yes

that cool !

It is sad to see some distro maintainers are trying hard to bring politics into the non political xlibre for its exclusion.

It is sad to see some distro maintainers are trying hard to bring politics into the non political xlibre for its exclusion.

I'm glad they got publicly outted for this, and the damage rolled back. These types of people are why FOSS is in the state it's in and why we will never achieve "the year of the Linux desktop" if they keep getting their way.

This is effectively why people avoid GNU/Linux. Between the fractured projects, the egotists, and the non-standardized software that seems to always be trying to replace everything, who would want to use GNU/Linux?