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semantic processing with rudybot in freenode channel #emacs: subsuming 'like pairs'
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* Text of interaction with rudybot: | |
#+begin_src text | |
<xk051> rudybot: some days you get the puma. some days the puma gets you. | |
<rudybot> xk051: is troubled to learn that puma and panther refer to the same | |
animal, but are different releases of osx | |
<xk051> rudybot: cougars and mountain lions are the same animal, too. you | |
never complain about that. | |
<rudybot> xk051: Mountain lions and cougars are the same thing. | |
<marcx> yeh | |
<marcx> most people also don't seem to know that black panther isn't a | |
separate specie | |
<xk05> rudybot: that pumas and panthers, and cougars and mountain lions are | |
like pairs, we would have you figure out, bot, and respond | |
appropriately. ergo, the semantic web. | |
<rudybot> xk05: or pumas? | |
<rudybot> xk05: I mean, what's the difference, really? | |
#+end_src text | |
** Subsuming Conversational Elements | |
*** A Success: Subsuming an assumption about an uncertain subject, the pronoun 'you'. | |
Rudybot correctly responds to my supposition that it is the subject of the | |
statement beginning with "is troubled to learn..." | |
My use of the pronoun 'you' indicates I'm making that supposition. | |
Note that there is an IRC convention for a more assertive way of making such a statement. | |
"Rudybot is troubled to learn that puma and panther refer to the same animal, but | |
are different releases of osx" | |
But I assume rudybot may be incapable of making such a subjective distinction | |
and/or using the irc-specific "/me" command, and press on with a response | |
highlighting that, regardless of the association to osx, there is a similar case | |
where the same species is subject to different lexical scopes. | |
The terms puma and panther, and cougar and mountain lion, refer to the same | |
animal, that there are seperate terms is due to ethnic and geographical conditions. | |
*** Failure: Rudybot isnt able to subsume 'like pairs' into it's argument | |
Even to dismiss it. | |
My response elicits a counter-response from rudybot that has the semantics of a | |
childlike objection to my criticism. | |
"Mountain lions and cougars are the same thing." | |
This has the appearance of the same way a child 'almost but not quite' gets a | |
concept, and barring simple luck in more or less random string matching, | |
indicates progress. It's actually somewhat impressive for an irc bot. | |
The conversation almost goes to another round. | |
*** Subsuming the concept of a 'like pair'. | |
The sensible response might be for rudybot to acknowledge that pumas and | |
panthers, and cougars and mountain lions, are indeed like pairs, and derive that | |
it could respond that osx version labels are an exception to a general rule about | |
'like pairs' and it would still be less troubling, perhaps, if each animal label | |
were to refer to a seperate species of feline. | |
We don't get that far, because rudybot doesn't subsume the like pairing argument | |
and counter it with an exceptional case of osx labels. | |
One of the goals of the semantic web is to make such processing easier to | |
code. The ability to subsume things like 'like pairs' in discourse processing is | |
central to the design of ontologies and their use with knowledge systems, chatbot, | |
and ai. |
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